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After having lived working in the music business for 35 years now,I can say without reservation that drugs have been and continue to be a plague in the
industry. It is a great enabler. Talent in most cases requires an open and non effected soul and a childlike wonder . And sometimes the pain of dealing with a
cruel and adult world is to much for some to deal with not to mention the constant rejection. I have lost an incredible amount of friends just this year to
this illness. Naras has tried to help with music cares (a program by grammy.com to help with all illness) . But the social and image of working in the industry
as an artist is very strong and very associated with party and drugs attitude (drugs sex and rock and roll). I am here to tell you as an unlikely survivor that
it is hard and I have been very lucky myself to be alive and clean. I would say that with all this in mind, I am going to celebrate the talent of her life and
only be sad for the leaving of her spirit. Rock on Jamine... Gary Vandy
www.garyvandy.com
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Deeb, I do not for a second believe FILM242 isn't deeply hurt by this, cared deeply for Jamene, and will possibly miss her more than most. I do still believe
that this was not the place for a detailed post of that nature..Ask Me About Fantasy may have been more appropriate. I do not agree with your naive comment of
it possibly saving someone with similar issues. Rehab programs do that if one choses that path. The country has been bombarded by drug awareness commercials
for over 25 years dating back to: This is your brain...this is your brain on drugs (fried egg). I am glad however that a cause of death or possible cause has
been posted....albiet without all actual toxicology reports in. My rant is done here..FILM242, sorry for defaming your handle...that wasn't very nice on my
part. I truly am sorry for the loss of your special friend.
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Jaime,
I'm certain my friend BB wouldn't want you to delete your comments - he's just talking. Unlike other boards, on the Lounge anything goes. To survive the Lounge, at times one must have thick skin and stand on one's ground. Hang in - knowing Jamene as you do, I find your insights enlightening. Jeff |
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Jeff / Corn better,
You are correct, no deletions. It takes away from the thread continuation for those who may want to catch up. I think we had another classic moment here in the Lounge...haven't had one in a while :-). Welcome to the lounge FILM 242. Sorry you missed some thick skin needed "discussions" in the "Hey Days" here...even when they were about who liked what guitar pick the best...Ah...the good old days! BB |
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Beatle, no thin skin here, I'm experienced with message boards. My reason for offering to delete the posts was because i'm not a regular here and you are. It's like a cat from another neighborhood pissing in your cat box then leaving. If I was a regular here I would have stuck to my guns. And yes, it is important to know why a talented, energetic, funny, lovely person passed away prematurely. No one had any problems discussing openly what to do with her remains, so i figured it would be ok to tell you why we had remains instead of a living, loving person. I agree with Beatle. Anti-drug commercils don't do shit. I remember smoking joints while laughing at the, 'your brain on drugs' commercials. Stories of tragedy befalling people you don't know, like John Belushi and all the other great talents that we lost to drugs, don't work as a deterent. After reading WIRED, the Belushi book on his horrible addiction, I wanted to try cocaine. Stories of distant fallen stars will not change your life. What will change your life is the untimely, drug related death of a close friend, a girlfriend, a brother, a son or neighbor. That stays with you forever. Everytime it crosses your mind it really hits you in the gut and makes you feel sick. Close proximity to the tragedy will change your outlook on life. All of you here knew Jamene in one way or another. Through phonecalls, through postings. That is much more personal and much more hurtfull than 12 biographies on Jim Morrison. Assuming her passing would strike pain in all of you here who really liked and admired her, is why I posted my 2 cents of drugs and addiction. Posting what I did here about Jamene compounded my pain 100 times, which is why after Beatle got pissed off I was so willing to delete it and just forget about trying in my own small way to strike a blow against what took her away, first from world-wide fame and then later from us. I want to clarify one more thing. She was an addict, but she was not laying in a fetal position waiting for her next fix. You would never know she was an addict. She was energetic, funny, outgoing, spoke to anyone that wanted her attention. She was as quick to anger and just a quick to get a great big laugh and a lovely smile out of her. To say that life with Jamene was like a ride at the carnival does not even come close. Some of the things we did are beyond words. She was very open minded and adventurous and we had a blast. Also, the last couple of years she loved coming here to Limestone Lounge and loved all the people here that she chatted with. At a time when a lot of things in her life were not giving her pleasure, Limestone Lounge was always there and always gave her pleasure. I use to joke with her about it. Doctors play golf to unwind, Jamene came to Limestone Lounge Jaime M.
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my posts are better suited for the ASK ME ABOUT JAMENE thread. Is there a way to contact the administrator, ask him to move them there and just put a link here that will take you there? when i posted, i though i was on the ASK ME ABOUT JAMENE thread. I didn't know about this thread. somehow the ASK ME ABOUT JAMENE thread led me here where my posts ended up. this thread is kind of like a wake. not the place to post what i posted. so i understand beatle's anger.
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if you look at this thread, from my first post on, all that follows can be moved to ASK ME ABOUT JAMENE and not discombobulate anything what has been posted in the IN MEMORY OF thread. just a thought |
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FILM242, I think this whole thing unfolded pretty well, with feelings shared, and no blood shed. I'd just leave it alone...it seems to fit the way Jamene lived...doing her thing. If you'd like to share more, then you can do it on the other thread, maybe some interesting music memories. Reflecting back on this now.....it's pretty cool. See you in the Lounge. BB
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I think there's enough respect here for Jamene's memory for this thread to remain as it is. If anybody strongly objects, please let me know.
"Experienced pros? 90% are tired burnouts. Experience is often Bullshit. It's where your mind is now and where it can GO." Lee Abrams |
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I'm glad some truth came out. Thank you for that. Don't mind BB.....he thinks he knows whats right and all that kind of crap and has obviously made
himself "keeper of this thread". I'm sorry for your loss , man.
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BobMihm.peoindustryboard |
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the Miami Herald has a front page story on her this morning in the local section-color photos and all. What a shame.
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Posted on Sunday, 10.19.08Related Content[As lousy as this movie is, it documents Jamene's remarkable Janice Joplin-like voice. Felix] BY ELINOR J. BRECHERebrecher@MiamiHerald.comIf you were a South Florida hippie of the flower-child era, you hung out on weekends at North Miami-Dade's Greynolds Park, where pot smoke and live music filled the air. Among the most popular bands of the day: Fantasy, which became local legend in 1970 thanks to its regional No. 1 single, Stoned Cowboy, and its wraith-like blond singer, Jamene Miller. She joined the band at 16 and overnight became South Florida's answer to Grace Slick and Janis Joplin. Then, as if following Hollywood's ''doomed rock star'' script, she crashed and burned -- albeit in slow motion. Miller died Sept. 27 at her home in Miramar, at 55. Her body will be cremated. On the strength of its hit and Jamene's powerful voice, Fantasy got its proverbial 15 minutes of fame: a record contract and an album. Then Miller went on her own, and gradually self-destructed. ''She was very tired from this world and she simply could not catch up to her dreams,'' said longtime friend AnnDee Rucker's posting on jamenemiller.com. Those dreams probably met a Joplinesque end. Broward County medical examiners don't suspect foul play, but await toxicology results. Miller was facing felony trafficking and prescription-fraud charges from a July 2007 Oxycontin bust. She was under house arrest, wearing an electronic ankle bracelet. In recent years, ''she went into a nose dive, but she had a huge heart, especially for animals and people who were less fortunate,'' said Rucker, ex-wife of Fantasy drummer Greg Kimple. She also had a history of cardiac problems. She said that Miller seemed to give up after her dog died earlier this year. News of Miller's death devastated the regulars at Limestone Lounge, an online message board devoted to the South Florida music scene. Miller thrilled fans when she surfaced there in July 2005. ''Ask me about Fantasy!'' she wrote. ``My name is Jamene and I barely lived through it!!! Just kidding; it was a great experience for me!'' Hinting at her brush with stardom, she said she 'was asked to be the lead singer of War, but being young and a bit conceited, I said, `No thanks, I'm doing my own thing.' '' War, whose hits include Spill the Wine and Why Can't We Be Friends?, has been nominated to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Miller's ''own thing'' after Fantasy included singing backup for Eric Clapton and having Jerry Garcia sing backup for her. She toured with the band Foxy, and assembled a club band of Stevie Wonder's musicians. ''Jamene had an obvious gift,'' Greg Kimple said. ``She had great pitch, and her lungs were twice what other people's are. Like an athlete, she was so inherently skilled that anybody who got around her gravitated toward that gift.'' ''She was brilliant, and anyone who ever saw her was mesmerized,'' Rucker added. But she was her own worst enemy, making one bad decision after another. ''I believe in my heart that she was terrified of the responsibility of success, so before she could even get there, she made sure she wouldn't get there,'' said Rucker, a Pembroke Pines makeup artist.``She needed to be in control, and you don't have control in that life.'' Guitarist Steve Mele, who joined Fantasy in 1971, called Miller ''just straight-ahead good. She could sing without making mistakes -- a type of ability that real rock stars have. . . . She was able to perform with rock-solid precision. By 15, she was as good as you need to be,'' which may have been her undoing. ''Jamene always viewed herself as a world-class artist, and her career hit on all cylinders when she was very young,'' said Mele, a Falls-area stay-at-home dad. ``But it was very short-lived, and life is about moving forward. Part of Jamene's tragedy was that she so centered on what she considered the best days of her life. She became stuck in a short part of her past.'' She was born Lydia Janene Miller in Kansas City, Mo., and grew up as an only child in South Florida. In a Limestone Lounge posting, Miller explained that a record-company typo altered the name she used onstage, and it stuck. Her father, James E. Miller, was a wealthy man who lived in Golden Beach. He and Jamene's mother, Irene, divorced. Irene died in 1991 and James in 2005. Married and divorced three times, Jamene Miller never had children, but she always fans. Norman Sloan, who played with the Coconut Grove band Good News during the same period, recalls first seeing her ``at a Greynolds Park love-in on a flatbed truck with a generator. . . . She was mature onstage beyond her years. She took the town by storm.'' When Miller joined Fantasy, probably in 1969, it was the house band at Thee Image in North Miami Beach, opening for super-acts like the Grateful Dead, The Doors, Steppenwolf, Cream, Frank Zappa, Led Zeppelin. The band, with Jamene, appeared in Iron Butterfly's 1969 short film, Musical Mutiny, then released the trippy Stoned Cowboy. Ironically, it's an instrumental, so Jamene Miller, the vocalist, isn't on it. The band signed with Liberty/United Artists and headed to California. As Mele and Kimple tell it, the album -- recently rereleased in Europe -- went nowhere. Miller, who wrote her own material, quit the band, signing with the label as a solo artist. Not yet 18, she made Billboard Magazine, and ''got a lot of money up front,'' Mele said. She rented Rudolph Valentino's mansion, bought a sports car -- which Rucker said she wrecked -- and went into the studio with a veritable Who's Who of pop music: drummer Aynsley Dunbar, bassist Harvey Brooks, Ralph Shuckett on keyboards, and Jerry Garcia on lead guitar. They cut a record, but Miller ''wasn't satisfied,'' Mele said. She tried again, with a band called Power, at Miami's Criteria Studios. That, too, sat on the shelf. She turned down a song that might have changed everything: Goodtime Charlie's Got the Blues, which became a Top 10 hit in 1972 for Danny O'Keefe, who wrote it. Country-Western stars like Elvis Presley, Waylon Jennings, Charlie Rich and Dwight Yoakam covered it. Miller only wanted to record her own songs, Rucker said. After a contract dispute with her label sidelined her recording career, Miller made a deal with Stevie Wonder's band that led to a nine-month gig in Chicago. Then she rejoined Fantasy, which played two high-profile concerts in the mid 1970s: one at the edge of the Grand Canyon, the other atop the World Trade Center. Thereafter, Miller performed sporadically, worked at a Hollywood health food store, and battled addiction. She would ''get cleaned up and go on a health-food kick,'' AnnDee Rucker said. Family and friends tried to steer her to rehab, but she wouldn't go. In the end, the drugs apparently won. Earlier this year, she posted a poem at poetry.com, titled Mirrorless Image: Looking down the river reflected like a spoon The past that's changed so rapidly has left me all too soon Waves of prancing moonbeams, so near yet far away You'll wet your hand in trying to capture yesterday. Now as the hours grow greater and greater All you have created are the thoughts you share alone Every night the moonbeams grow greater like the thoughts That you ponder lead to more that make you weep Your eyes close tight and try to remember, but you're Too far under water, you're sinkin' way too deep.
(lounge power inside)
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It seems obvious to me that there are numerous people that had lots of love for Jamene. I wonder if she really was aware of that. I completely understand her
history. Sadly though, I haven't been in the scene for many years which caused me to lose contact with her. I worked with her for several years during the
Fantasy days during which time I became friends with the band and of course her. I was just getting my feet wet back then which has made the memories of
hearing her voice with the band, night after night, priceless. Upon reading the story of her death, I was consumed with a wave of flashbacks that so vividly
reproduced her to me as a frozen moment in time. We had hung out together and shared many rides to the gigs. During which time I was exposed to the real person
that lived behind that incredible voice. I felt priveleged when she would just be herself. It didn't take much to understand how troubled she was inside.
And many people that knew her better and for longer tried to free her spirit from her demons without much success. But never the less, they cared enough for
her to try. I am sorry that I could not stay in contact with her. And I am sorry that I did not get the chance to say good-bye. I do feel very graced for
knowing her and for having my luck put me in the right place at the right time to become her friend and peer. I got to hear that phenomenal voice enough to
never ever forget how untouchable she was up on that stage as she smiled in the spotlight. Clearly, that was where she belonged. Now, she stands on the
ultimate stage as she sings at the great gig in the sky. Love you always.
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FeitenFan.theunofficialma... |
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For those who may be intersted, I will try to post a couple of Jamene's mid 80's solo tunes on YouTube over the weekend. They should be up their by 12
noon on Sun or sooner.
My YouTube name is FeitenFan. These tunes come courtesy of Film242, Jamine's "young boyfriend" who I know from trading emails with him a few years ago is feeling this probably the most. Thanks for the tunes Film242 -- FeitenFan FeitenFan |
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Jamene had her own YouTube page: http://www.youtube.com/user/Jamene1. I never met her personally, but I did
see her perform with Power back in the very early '70's and, of course, with Fantasy. We corresponded via Limestone and on MySpace. Here is her MySpace
page: http://www.myspace.com/801babydoll. What a voice...
Don't drive faster than your guardian angel can fly...
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Jimi Magnole |
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Her soul will remain in the hearts of the one's she loved.............
and in the hearts of the one's that loved her.................. |
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Jamene passed away a almost a year ago the 27th of Sept.
I still go the the Health Plus store she worked at in Hollywood. I miss her, she was good people. |
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jamene's memory is to be kept alive. I thought she passed on the 30th of September but it was the 27th. Thin and frail as she was when we would visit, it
never crossed my mind that her death was drug related. I hope she has found peace.
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Nice post StraP. I never met Jamene, but did speak to her on a third party call with Mick. It will be hard for me to forget her passing day...it is my
birthday. She added a special touch to the Lounge during its "Hey-Day". She was a great sport with all of the teasing. I know it would please her to
know you keep the candle burning.
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