Here is a picture of young Jaco at a gig. Could it be in Wilton Manors? Note the Modern Music placard in front of the stage.
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gingerman |
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Does anyone here have any info/pics of Jaco in Wilton Manors? This is a small city known as The Island City since it is surrounded by the Middle River. For
many years it and Oakland Park were known as the Twin Cities. We know he went to school there, broke his wrist there, was beaten and had his funeral mass
there, but what other connections do we know of?
Here is a picture of young Jaco at a gig. Could it be in Wilton Manors? Note the Modern Music placard in front of the stage.
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stratman |
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I lived 3 blocks from where Jaco was murdered. He walked past my apartment pretty much everyday on his way to sleep on the RR tracks behind the funeral home
where he would end up in, ironically. He knew me as "tall boy". That was his moniker for me. I'd be jogging in Holiday Park when I would hear
"Tall boy,you going to Peaches later"? I used to browze the record bins there and many times Jaco would greet me at the entrance, show me his
handprints at Peaches little walk of fame by the front door. He always introduced himself as "the worlds best/greatest bass player". He never asked
me for a dime. I would run into him at Mr. Laffs quite a bit. I heard from some people that he would go there after he recieved a royalty check. My saddest
encounter with Jaco was at a concert at Summers on the Beach in which I was a member of the opening act for The Band. Jaco was there pounding down tequilas
during our soundcheck. He kept asking me "Where da fuck is Danko"? , referring to The Band's bassit/singer. I went to grab a bite before showtime
and came back to a packed to the fucking gills crowd. There was Jaco still pounding 'em down at the same sidebar close to the stage. His issues had taken
him to a place mentally where he had cut lumps of hair off of his head, wore old man style golfing trousers and other thrift store type clothes and shoes. So
we went on ...we were a duo known as Pete Harris and yours truly, Pat Maguire. Pete and I came offstage and into the dressing room where there stood the Band
and Jaco. I was like "how many great musicians are in this room right now"? To see The Band before my eyes was like seeing the Fab Four in my
eyes.......anyway....Jaco yelled to my partner Pete "you play like and old N****R......followed by "Tall boy....you play allright". He then
offered me some of the Publix Platter that was there for the Band. Nice promoters ...HUH...a fucking Publix Platter for who i consider one of the best bands
ever. So jaco was going on and on about how "It was the best food on earth". So later while the Band was playing to a "to the rafters"
crowd they announced Jaco to come out and play one. I forgot what song it was but I can clearly remember Jaco just hanging on an low F note through the entire
piece....just bizzare. Years later I would attend Jaco's funeral service and the party that followed that night at the Holiday inn at Commercial and
Powerline. It was sad and celebratory at the same time.
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I think that photo is from a show held at FT Lauderdale High School. Looks like Duffy Jackson on Drums. I remember that show .Jaco was a high school buddy
back in 1969 . He would bum rides from me all the time. We would also jam on drums back in the old Bolander wear houses off Dixie Hwy.
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Strat, thanks for the insight. Mental illness and self-medicating it with booze is such a rotten and certain demise. I hope people take the time to learn of
Jaco as the great muisician he was in his prime. Youtube helps keep that part of his memory alive. Far too much attention is spent discussing his descent into
a hell of an illness without discussung that "the world's greatest" wasn't just an idle boast. Fortunately, in the 20 plus years since his
death there have been great strides in treating bipolar disorder. A pity for him that he was too soon for it.
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I have heard that Jaco refused medication. I have also heard that he wouldn't take it because it had an effect on his creativeness. Not taking meds had the
same effect on him in my opinion.
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I absolutely agree. There have been many well known examples of bipolar artists whose creativity is unbridled when they are in their manic stages. However, the
highs are never as high as the lows are low and the highs spin into an uncontrolled ascent followed by the inevitable crash and burn. Unfortunately, I am all
too familiar with this illness and how it affects people. Bipolar folks are highly at risk for suicide, although in Jaco's case he was murdered by an
asshole who escaped real justice. Shoplifters can do more time than the man who killed him but bamboozled a jury into doubting that it was murder.
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stratman |
Mental illness knows no dignity | ||
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"Manic Depression is a frustrating mess": Jimi Hendrix |
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I saw Jaco a couple months beore he died. In the months before he was killed, his family and friends were concerned for Jaco's life. He had been found
sleeping on the railroad tracks.
The wonderful wonderful cat! |
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First time Jaco was in the hospital, Holy Cross (1983), to treat his condition they gave him a drug to which he had such a reverse reaction that they had to
emergency rush him to a medical unit to treat it. After that incident they decided to give him Lithium which he took for one week and then
"escaped". For several years after he didn't take any medication. I left Jaco in April '84, the twins were almost 2 years old and after
several intense periods of personality swings, we divorced in '85. In July of '86, Greg Pastorius and I went up to NY and arranged for Jaco to go to
Bellevue. The first thing he told dr. Ken Alper was that he didn't want to take Lithium because it rendered him "impotent" on many levels, so
they decided to give him Tegratol (for brain seizures) and it seemed to work. He took that for a while after he left Bellevue, but then started to lose track
of refilling the medication, especially after leaving NY state for different periods of time. When on medication and going to another state you need to
establish contact with a local physician who can keep track, which Jaco failed to do.
The murderer after 1 year of denying that he did it, eventually admitted to second degree murder (not premeditated), and because it was his first offense, received 22 months in jail and 5 year probation. Because of good behavior and time served in the first year he was denying, they released him after 4 months, a month for each child he left fatherless. It is possible he now lives in Lake Worth, Florida. |
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stratman |
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Dear Ingrid,
Sincerely, stratman |
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Ingrid, do not wish to disturb you, and you probably dont know or remember me, but you could perhaps clarify some things that happened long ago...did you ever work at Bachelor's Three?...And, were you with Jaco when he studied with Al Greenstein?...these questions sound insignificate but mean something to me, I knew Jaco but we weren't friends, just fellow bassplayers or like ships passing in the night, thank you...bobby |
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stratman wrote: I completely agree. Thanks, Strat. No, Bobby, Tracy worked at Bachelor's which is how she introduced Jaco to Bobby Colomby, resulting in the selfnamed master piece. Similarly regarding Al Greenstein. I met Jaco in 1978. |
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Ingrid,
i've worked a zillion bars and tho' bouncers help keep the peace in lushy insane environments a part of me believes strongly that it is many bouncer's sick hopes that they can get the chance to beat people senseless and some even have sicker hopes of one day getting to murder someone with a license to kill. It sickens me to know that the creep that took Jaco's life is still in south florida. karma will have it's way with him. stratman |
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stratman wrote:Here's to hoping. As someone whose profession makes me intimately involved in the court system, I can say that, while it truly is the best system the world has ever known bar none, it has so many shortcomings in which the innocent get convicted and the guilty escape justice. Life is not fair and, unfortunately, this murderer's real sentence must wait for someday when he is adjudicated by one we cannot fully comprehend. Ingrid, briefly met your sons at the park's dedication on December 1. I asked Felix to introduce me to you since I "know" you from here on the Lounge but you were not there yet and I could not stay the whole time. |
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Yes Pat, anyone who has it in him to beat someone over and over again to the extent of the injuries we are speaking of resulting in death, and from
what witnesses said that Jaco never fought back, nor had a chance to even get up off the ground, I would agree that this "animal" lost control, has
no right to be a martial artist of any kind, if he is that indeed, and should never be in a position of "power" again. He killed Jaco, that's
karma in itself. I hope he realizes what he's done, and feels remorse.
Glad you made it to the dedication and met Felix and Julius, DB, sorry I missed meeting you. It sure was a beautiful moonlit night! The mural wraps, here's the other wall:
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very cool; I will make it a point to go back to see it. Kind of cool that he is next to Hendrix in the mural as I have often said when introducing someone to
Jaco's music who is unaware of his work that he is to electric bass much like Hendrix was to electric guitar. That is, the instrument was around before
each of them and after them, but it will never be the same. Further, practically every single poll of the "greatest" on their respective instruments
rates them the greatest ever with no close also rans in 2nd place. That is especially interesting for Jaco when the poll is not limited to a specific genre
because his primary genre, jazz, is hardly one that is popular with likely voters, the bulk of whom would gravitate to artists in rock and, to a lesser extent,
blues. Not that these polls are the be all-end all (the music is) but it counts for something. After all the political punting of the football, Oakland Park
did this park right. Happened to see my neighbor at the Dec 1 Birthday Party. He works for Broward County and was instrumental in planning or something like
that. Even at the grand opening, he was not aware of who Jaco was so I have made it a point to turn him on. His musical tastes tend toward Christian music but
he has been blown away by Jaco's music. Personally nothing like Atomic Punk to get me going.
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gingerman wrote: The guitarist is Elliott Randall famous for "Reeling in the Years" by Steely Dan among other things. The wonderful wonderful cat! |
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